washington. that does it for this edition of 360. we'll see you at 10:00. we'll see you at 10:00. "piers morgan live" starts now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com this is "piers morgan live." welcome to the viewers in the united states and around the world. this is what president obama said a year ago. >> a red line for us is we start seeing a whole bunch of chemical weapons moving around or being utilized. that would change my equation. >> administration says there is no doubt the assad government used chemical weapons on it's people. that's the red line crossed. what will president obama do and will the rest of the world support him? unanswered questions about the kidnapping of hanna anderson and the murder of her brother

and mother. laura dimaggio is speaking out for the first time. plus yosemite in flames, the raging fire threatening san francisco's water supply. you loved him and now cnn's inside man morgan spur lack is back going with the biggest band since the beetles, and i'll ask him about miley cyrus and her twerking. cnn's fled is the only western reporter in damascus and he joins me on the phone. fred, what is the latest on the ground in damascus? is there a sense that a military attack from the united states and other u.n. countries could be coming at any moment? >> reporter: oh, it certainly is. there is aeeling a military attack could be coming soon. i've been in touch with syrian officials and given interviews with the country and powerful men here and you have the syrian officials are talking to you have just changed.

two days ago i was talking and they were very bold and warning the united states, if the u.s. attacks they would strike back. they are saying similar things but the tone completely changed. you're hearing things like the weapon inspectors on the ground for the u.n. should be able to complete their work before anyone comes to conclusions. they keep talking about the u.s. not having an international mandate and the u.s. having to explain all this to voters in america and people around the world. you can sense that there is a new nervousness here. it seems as though they are opening up and realizing the fact that it's not really a question of if anymore but when. that's causing the talk at least amongst some syrian officials. the mood changed considerably here on the ground, piers. >> now cnn obtained this exclusive video by a direct hit from the chemical weapons attack. some of this video is graphic and disturbing.

tell us, the latest mood, i guess, that people want to sense is what is president assad's reaction likely to be? >> reporter: that's a very good question. it's probably doubtful there will be any reaction but a lot will depend on what sort of military action is taken. if it's limited, i doubt there will be reaction. i was here when the israelis struck a big weapons depot and a whole mountain was set on fire for days and there was never really any sort of response, any military response. the syrian government knows well that it's air force is no match for the u.s. air force. they know very well they don't have much in the way of air defense, even though people keep talking about it. a lot of it is from the 1980s and difficult to stop america planes from doing their job. if the attack is limited, i doubt there would be any answer from the syrian government, piers. >> and finally, fred, is there

massive debate on the ground in damascus about whether it was assad's forces that unleashed this chemical weapons attack or is it generally acre ceme lly a from him? >> reporter: yeah, that debate changed in the past couple days, as well, and some of the video that we're seeing right now is one of the reasons. people here are seeing that there might be something more behind this than they thought. you know, we're in the government controlled part of damascus and people here are generally sympathetic to the government. when i came here, the people i spoke to, most of them on the ground in the syrian military or civilians said they simply could not imagine that the government would ever do such a thing as use chemical weapons, but as more and more of these videos surface, people are questioning things and wondering what exactly happened there, and people are coming to light --

>> we've lost fred at the end of the report there. we'll try to get him back. fred pleitgen, one of the few western reporters on the ground there. what will president obama do about syria and will the rest of the world back him? >> i have my guests here, fred town send, cnn's national security analyst, and new york times columnist nick chris. what do you believe is the most likely military action president obama will take and how effective, in your experience, do you think it will be? >> my political judgment is that the administration will not do a lot. it's making a very narrow case that what we have here is not a large issue inside of syria but a small specific issue of chemical weapons used which needs to be addressed, and i'm

concerned that what this president will do is a small limited attack to number one puni puni punish assad. however, i think it will be limited as a result and i think everybody in the region will take away a view america is weaker because of this. >> adam shift, i mean, the that is correct and that seems to be the perceived wisdom, will it be thatfective and dismantle the regime, which is something most people have been calling for for quite sometime now. what is the point of it other than making a political statement? >> i think it will be effective if the object is to detour assad from using chemical weapons again and feeling that this is now the new norm, chemical weapons are a tool in the military tool box. so i think it can be very effective and accomplishing that

objective. the president doesn't want to own this war, and noother do the american people want to own this war so we have to be careful not to comment to things that we aren't ready to engage in the sense of getting fully involved in a civil war and another country by narrowly defining the mission, i think we can achieve that objective and detour the regime from going to a brutal and terrible weapon but it has to be narrowly defined mission so we don't have mission creep and get entangled in the war. >> nick, one of the problems administration faces is the fallout that continues from iraq where the american people and the british people, for that matter, were assured saddam hassan had weapons of mass destruction. britain and america are being told this man assad have used chemical weapons but haven't produced public evidence to that

effect, this will not have much support with the public. how dangerous is that for president obama and indeed, other world leaders? >> i think the main reason president obama has not been more decisive is indeed the public has no appetite for some kind of broader international military engagement in syria. i think, you know, health gotten advisories who pushed him to do that but he's resisted for that reason, and i think as you say, that the problem is that we overreact in afghanistan, we overreacted in iraq, and that has led to paralysis. but at the end of the day the approach in syria, it simply has not worked. the things that we try to prevent like the spread of the word to surrounding countries like the growing civilian slaughter, the steady escalation of the conflict, the radicalization of the rebels, those happened anyway. >> fred townson let's talk about

president assad because everyone is talking about the need for him to go for well over a year now. we're now at the point of military action and yet that red trick is being rained back. it's not regime change, it's a retaliating attack concentrated on the chemical weapons. this is a bit of a mess how you sell this to an already skeptical public. is this guy a bad guy or not, and if he is, why are we not trying to seek to change the regime? >> that's right, piers. i frankly don't understand why administration could signal that we're not looking to change the balance of power but seeking to address the issue of chemical weapons. look, the limited targeted strikes, the cruise missile strikes, in and of themselves, we can't expect to be much of a detour rant. let's remember, after the bombings, president clinton sent missiles into afghanistan and sudan and that did not detour bin laden or the taliban and we

saw them launch the 9/11 strikes from afghanistan where the missiles had been. missiles in and of themselves, once an out isn't an effective strategy. there has to be strategic objectives that are this age. this alone will not be affective. i frankly don't understand why you would signal that before you even started. >> absolutely -- >> piers -- can i respond to that quickly? >> you can. >> i think there is a reason why the president and administration is being specific about this. we don't want to give the syrian people the impression that we're the cavalry riding in to change the course of the war, and that they should rise up against assad and risk what happened in iraq when the iraqi people thought we would finish the job of sedan at the end of the persian gulf war. we don't want to risk further slaughter of the syrian people by giving that impression. the president needs to be clear with not only the american

people about the limited scope of this potential military action but clear with the syrian people so they don't expect too much and we don't get ourselves drawn in and essentially own this conflict. >> right, but general, again fromperspective, the rebels will see any intervention by the americans, british and french and others as being a plus for them because it will be a strike against the assad regime. so, effectively, the international community will be taking sides, won't it? there is no other way to describe what happened. >> the international committee has already taken sides. as soon as we said assad want tops go, everybody took sides but a limited strike as described by congressman will have a bolder iran convinced they are winning inside of syria because this is the best and the worse that america is willing to do. it will inbolden assad to stay

in power and america is not serious to stand up to comment mtds and responsibility ps in the region. >> i'm not so sure about that. can i pipe in? >> yes, you can. >> you know, i think realistically there is very little chance politically of a sustained kosovo kind of operation. i don't see that as a realistic possibility here. will a short operation of a day or two or three make a difference? i think general is right there are real risks but on the other hand, president assad tested the community if you watch what he has done over the last couple years, he started by arresting protesters and opened fire on protests, then he began sending rockets and mortars, finally bombing rebel areas and finally bombing civilian areas and the gradual introducing of chemical weapons. it seems this is a racial actor. he wants to protect his toys, and i think there is some

possibility that he can be detoured. i'm not sure of it, but i think the present policy failed. >> piers, i think we also have to acknowledge the fact that we don't know how assad will react to limited cruise missile strikes and what he may do because you won't be able to take out the chemical weapon stockpiles with a single strike, he may decide he'll use them or lose them. he may actually use what is left of his chemical weapons against his population. so there are real risks, both to the detour rant strategy, to not having strategic objectives. this is not without par parol. >> thank you very much to my guests. i'm sure we'll talk again regularly about this over the next few weeks. an update on a story from last night. the search for jonathan croom

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with it, and i would tell him how i felt about it, and he would help me through with it. they weren't anything bad. >> hanna anderson talking about james dimaggio in the wake of hanna's kidnapping and the murders of her mother and brother. investigators are struggling to piece together? those answers may have died with dimaggio but the person closest to dimaggio speaks out, his sister laura joining me. obviously, a very difficult time for you and your family and everyone connected with this. have you got any answers to the questions, i'm sure you've been asking yourself about what your brother is alleged to have done? >> what specifically answer? specific questions would you be referring to? >> do you know why he did it? >> how do you know that he did it would be my question for you. there is no evidence. the only evidence that has come

forward at this point is the fact that these two bodies were found on his property. i think there is a lot of holes in the case. there is a lot of missing information. i have yet to see any solid evidence. >> what do you think happened? >> in my heart of hearts, i think that hanna perhaps got herself into a situation that she couldn't get herself out of, and i do believe that my brother gave his life to protect her. >> do you really believe that, laura? >> i do. >> i mean, all the evidence points to him having left a booby trapped property that set fire and killed hanna's mother and her little brother. he then took hanna, we know indisputely on this long road trip, anywhere longer than he had been before. why would he do this if he was a completely innocent man? >> let's start with the first thing that you went over, the

booby trapping of the house. i have known my brother for years. he had trouble setting his water thermostat on his hot tub. my brother was one of the kindest people you've ever met in your life. he worked diligently to save animals. he was not only a father figure and an uncle to the anderson children, he was to many other people, as well. the kind of the man that i know him to be, it's -- it doesn't add up. it doesn't make sense and for me, i need facts and i need evidence, real facts. >> obviously, the police are making it pretty clear that they believe he did set fire to the house. >> right. >> that he did commit a double-murder. >> uh-huh. >> and that he kidnapped hanna and took her away and he was in a shootout then with police, which that part of it certainly

is indisputable, he was. >> uh-huh. >> many people watch this -- >> is it indisputable, is it really? >> that he was in a shootout with police? you don't believe that, either? >> i know one thing for sure. i was in touch with the fbi and u.s. marshals and san diego pd that entire week. they know that my brother and i were best friends, and we were all that, you know, we had left in our immediate family. they know that -- they could have flown me to idaho in a moment's notice. i could have been there in three hours and i could have talked to him, give me a mega phone and i would have talked to him straight out of there and he could have come home and had a trial as he deserves as anyone this in this country deserves -- >> what was he doing there? >> in idaho? >> yeah, why was he with this young just turned 16 girl? i mean, that's not a man of his age should be doing? >> fair enough. >> have you said that to

yourself? >> i know that he thought of hanna as a daughter. i know that the wilderness up there, it is some of the most beautiful terrain that you'll ever see in the world, and that's one of the things that my brother and i enjoyed doing together, doing separately. you've heard andrew talk about they went to yosemite. that's what we enjoyed doing. >> you were very close to james? >> yes. >> how close? >> he was my best friend. he was my brother. he was my father. he was everything to me. he was the person that i called if i had a question about life, love, career, anything. he was my first person that i called. he was my best friend. >> is part of your reaction to this, do you think, a sense of denial? i got to put that to you that

you just don't want to believe that your brother could be capable of such a monstrous act as the police believe? >> we're coming back to still seeing no evidence, no -- the sheriffs -- the san diego sheriffs have basically said that the cloase is closed. >> the police report said he tortured christina and ethan, hanna's mother and brother and set fire to the house and burned them and kidnapped hanna and took her away. these are things the police have made clear from their point of view happened. >> well, where is the evidence? >> if it wasn't him, who was it? >> i don't know. that's what i want to find out. >> he's the guy who took hanna to the middle of nowhere. what other explanation do you have? >> do you believe everything a 16-year-old tells you? >> we think she's just lying?

>> i'm not going to speak to that. >> you know hanna anderson, you know the family well. >> i do. >> do you believe there is a reason why she wouldn't be telling the truth? do you think -- >> i know the hanna anderson that i saw a few nights ago on the tv is certainly not the girl that stayed in my home three weeks prior to them disappearing. >> what do you mean? do -- what do you mean? >> i remember very vividly telling my brother, she's trouble. she's going -- i said, you need to watch out for that one, she's trouble. she was -- you know, came into my home, was very gracious. didn't say thank you once. she had on extremely heavy eye makeup, just wasn't -- wasn't the -- just didn't strike me as

a -- i don't know. i don't want to bash anyone. it certainly not my intent. >> so if you believe she was troubled, then it may well be that your brother became infatuated with her -- >> i know she -- i know that, you know, jim did express at that time that he was -- she stated that she was very upset with her mother. she blamed her mother for her father moving to tennessee. it was, you know, didn't -- didn't appear to me -- it did concern me at the time. >> i mean, look, there will be people watching this saying come on, laura, you've got to face facts. >> uh-huh. >> we understand that you're his only surviving sibling. we'll get in after the break after very troubled upbringing you had and close relationship. >> right. >> but in the end if it's the police saying all this stuff, and they are absolutely convinced that there is no doubt that your brother was a double-murderer and torturer and

kidnapper, it may be that you have to face the reality that he just flipped, that he became obsessed with hanna. >> right. >> that he planned this road trip with her. >> right. >> that he cracked up, that he set fire to this house and that he disposed of the two people, whatever it may be, that he just became somebody that you wouldn't recognize as your brother. >> well, i think we're getting ahead of ourselves. when they can show me evidence, than i will deal with it at that time. >> let's take a short break. we'll come back and have more of this because i wasn't expecting you to say some of this stuff, and i want to go over it in more detail with you. >> okay.

back with me now is laura dimaggio, the sister of james dimaggio, the kidnapper of hanna anderson. this is her first interview since her brother's death. >> piers, can i stop you? >> yeah. >> i would like to throw in there just -- i would like tory mind you that at this point my brother is still a suspect. he is not a killer. he is accused, and again, it is alleged. so i would just like to -- >> i mayean, i understand that d this is on behalf of everyone watching saying look, the police have been very firm in their reports from this and public statements that they have little doubt that your brother was a double-murderer, torturer and kidnapper. so i understand why you as his

sister defend him but i have to put again, it sounds to me like you're slightly in denial. >> uh-huh. i understand where you're coming from on that, i certainly do. how, you know, san diego police have not -- they refuse to return any of my calls. fbi refuses to return any of my calls. no one will speak to me. no one will give me any information. no one will release any of his property to me. i've largely been left out of the loop and completely ignored throughout this whole process. and if there is evidence, i think that as, you know, the last remaining, you know, immediate family member of james, that i am -- i think they could share a little bit of that with me. >> tell me about the upbringing you had with james, because it was very tore meanted with your

mother and father. we've heard lots of rumor about it. >> the reality is that we stuck together a lot. we did have trying times. we also had a lot of happy times. we made our own life, and he took care of me a lot. >> your father went to prison and it was over a strange incident involving an ex-girlfriend. >> correct. >> the way he ended up at the ex-girlfriend's house and effectively seemed to kidnap her daughter. >> correct. >> and for that he went to prison. he later committed suicide and james lost his life on the anniversary of your father taking his life. do you think that was linked in someway? >> no, i think that in many ways they are very different situations. my father was on drugs and my father was a drug addict for years. my entire life that i knew him, he was on drugs.

as soon as -- after he left the military, and we're not just talking about, you know, marijuana or something like that. he was, you know, on some very heavy drugs. my brother was not a meth addict, so i think you're talking about two totally different situations, although i did understand and can see the similarities. >> you had -- >> situation. >> you had a pact with your brother after your parents died that you would never leave the other one alone. >> right. >> tell me about that. >> no smoking and take care of yourself, watch out for yourself, don't do anything stupid. we agreed that we would stick around for each other for a really, really, really long time, as long as we possibly could until we were old and gray and that we would never leave each other alone.

we had already lost so much. >> you must feel very alone now. >> i miss him very much. very much. he was the center of my world. >> did he ever, lora, give any sense to you of being very damaged by what had happened in his upbringing that could possibly explain what happened? and i don't want to prejudge, you're right the police investigation will have to conclude and everything else, all the evidence at the moment points towards him being guilty of heinous crimes, ones that you just can't believe your brother is capable of, but was there anything in his behavioral pattern over the years where you thought potentially one day he could crack up? >> you know, the only thing that i could say to that is that jim was very quiet. he never spoke about our

childhood, whereas i was opposite. on every anniversary or birthday, jim, mom would have been whatever age today what not and he would say lora, you know, stop living in the past, stop living in the past. he was very quiet about everything, never spoke about it on his birthday he would pretty much turn off his cell phone and kind of, you know, go work on the property or something like that. he was always just very quiet. i don't know that he ever grieved of dealt with anything we went through as children or in his teenage years. you know -- >> could it all have just been building up, building up? i mean is it a possibility? >> anything is a possibility -- >> did -- >> absolutely. anything is a possibility. >> that he may have just completely flipped. >> it's certainly a possibility, but it's very hard to believe

that someone who was just so genuine and so dependable every single solitary day just woke up one day and decided, you know, i'm going to do this. it's very difficult to believe. you know, i also want to say that i'm not in any way excusing, you know, i'm not saying that he didn't have any part in it, but what i would like to know is i would like to have factual evidence of what exactly his part in it was, and, you know, when i have that evidence, i'll go from there. >> you were pretty critical of hanna anderson, a lot of people on twitter and if you want to give me a view of this tweet me at piers morgan but a lot of people acting angrily to that saying you can't attack a young kid, a 16-year-old girl that's been kidnapped by your brother who is a man nearly three times

her age, regardless of anything else, you can't go after a young kid like that. what is your reaction? >> they have a right to their own opinion, and i have a right to mine. >> you -- it's sad that you were trying to get dna evidence to explore a theory that james had had a relationship with hanna's mother and that he may even be the father of hanna or indeed ethan or both. is that true, and if so, why did you do that? >> to this day i have not asked the andersons, you can ask the anderson family, i have not asked the andersons for any dna. >> do you intend to? >> we'll see when the time comes. >> james left all his money not to you, as he originally planned to but to the maternal grandmother of hanna. >> correct. >> was that a surprise to you? >> no, it was not. >> his argument, apparently is that he believed she was best place to take care of the kids should something happen to their parents.

>> i mean, correct. you know, i remember speaking to him about it. it was never -- my children don't need it. i don't need it. and i want nothing more than -- you know, i have so much respect and love and deep, deep, deep respect in my heart for my brother that i want nothing more than for his wishes to be honored. i've heard people say that, you know, i'm upset about that, that he left them $100,000. it's really -- >> you spoke -- >> could not be further from the truth. >> you've sprooken to brett -- >> i called and let him know. absolutely. >> how that was conversation? >> it was very nice. i've been -- you know, brett was my brother's best friend. in a sense, they were like brothers. my brother, you know, took on his family as his own and bernice was, you know, very much

so a maternal role -- you know, role model in his life, and she helped him out -- >> did brett believe that james had done all this? did he tell you that? >> i think he was a little surprised, but, you know, i had just called him because i wanted to let him know that this was in place for him, not to worry. you know, he certainly has enough to worry about, and my deepest, deepest, you know, condolences. my heart just breaks for brett, really, it does. >> well, it's an awful situation for everybody involved. >> it is. >> i appreciate you coming on, lora. i know it's difficult for you and you didn't want to do this. you're perfectly entitled to have your opinion. it was your brother. i hope you find peace from this. >> thank you. >> we got a statement from the family, from the anderson family. no one in the anderson family or associated with the anderson

family has received a request for dna from andrew or lora and they did not meet mr. dimaggio until the sixth month of tina's pregnancy with hanna and brett anderson's dna was used to identify the body of his dead son ethan anderson. this is a difficult time for both families and we wish her pry v privacy and peace how can i help you? oh, you're real? you know i'm real! at discover, we're always here to talk. good, 'cause i don't have time for machines. some companies just don't appreciate the power of conversation! you know, i like you! i like you too! at discover, we treat you like you'd treat you. get the it card and talk to a real person.

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. ♪ ♪ ♪ talking about these blurred lines ♪ >> to tweak or not -- to twerk not to twerk. morgan spurlock, how are you? >> good, how are you man? >> you're the expert because you made the movie the entire teenage force is going to watch, so what is your reaction to the great twerking controversy of miley cyrus. >> i think the fact you and i are having a conservation about it, has proven that she's

accomplished everything she set out to do. people like to think it's terrible, it's awful. where are the parents in this? we're talking about it. it absolutely unbelievable. >> this whole thing of twerking being a new form of dance, i've been going to the caribbean for 25 years and if you go to any nightclub in trinidad, barbados, jamaica, they have been doing it for 20 years. it's called bump and grind. so i've been twerking since i was 15. >> i believe it. i've seen you. it's impressive. we need a little booty shaking now and then. there is nothing wrong with it. >> lady gaga doing it, nobody would care. it because it's miley and we want her to be little montana, little 10-year-old. get real, she's a 20-year-old young woman and doing exactly the same as beyonce or lady gaga or any of them. >> i imagine billy ray cyrus has

a printing machine going yeah, look at that honey, here it comes, more money. it like this is -- >> he was supposed to be -- billy ray was supposed to be on the show to explain his daughter's behavior. >> yeah, billy, you have explaining to do. >> i'm not sure he's worked out his explanation. we decided to postpone it. we'll get the first interview. i know he's watching. billy ray, we're ready. you emersed yourself with one direction. they are a great bunch of guys. >> they are. >> i had the pleasure of meeting them and you did this documentary on them. what did it tell you about the world of pop, and of marketing and promotion and the kind of stunt that miley pulled here? it's so important, isn't it, to the brands of these young pop stars? >> i think the biggest thing you've hit on is it's a machine. there is a tremendous amount of work that goes into being a pop store and a lot of that is visibility, that everything that these guys do in one direction,

every time they say something, do something, it becomes front page news as is happening with miley cyrus and that's what keeps this machine going. these guys, luckily, have not had the kind of strip down to their underwear yet. i think miley is in a different shift because she's having people look at her in a different way. she wants to be beyond being this innocent little teenager and now she wants to be an adult pop star and wants to compete like rihonna or lady gaga and the fact we're talking about it, proves she's accomplishing that. >> there is so much hot air spoken about it. i was not remotely offended. i just thought what is all the fuss about? really. it was a little bit of a naughty dance. why shouldn't she? she's not 15, she's 20. >> people like to think the

wardrobe malfunction was a mistake, robin thicke, the pr people. the foam finger is probably like i didn't plan on any of this. >> the most upset person will be lady gaga because she had a similar outfit -- >> lady gaga is like you stole my gig, what are you doing miley cyrus? get off the stage. >> [ laughter ] let's have a little break. we'll come back and talk about your one direction movie, which is terrific and your view on the bigger international story, bigger than one direction, syria because you traveled around that region and i'm sure you got aer after the break. >> absolutely. the kyocera torque lets you hear and be heard

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comfort individualized. breaking news tonight out of fairfield, california, where firefighters are battling a raging fire that's destroyed several buildings. and the rim fire continues to scorch yosemite park. officials say it's the seventh largest fire in california history. gary tuchman is live for us in gloveland, california, with the latest on the rim fire. gary, bring me up to speed with how this fire is doing. >> reporter: since this fire started ten days ago, it's continued to grow. it's now the largest fire in california ever in recorded history. 287 square miles have been burned, the equivalent almost twice the size of las vegas, nevada. nobody has been killed, that's

very important. it's an amazing fact, considering how big this fire is. in addition, there have been no serious injuries. the latest numbers we have, 31 homes destroyed. we're standing outside of yosemite national park. 6% of the park has been singed by fire. it's not the part of the park where tourists go. they're hoping to keep the fire away from the park where the tourists go. piers? >> gary tuchman, thank you very much. i want to bring back cnn's inside man, morgan spurlock. i want to play a little clip from this movie. >> as soon as someone tries to tell us what to do. it's like having five rowdies in class at school. ♪ >> thank you. enough of you. come on, now.

>> they look each more handsome on your tv show, i've got to tell you. >> they're taking america and the world by storm. they're getting the kind of crowds we haven't seen since the beatles. i'm surprised as to why you made the movie. you like metallica, music like that. you've done gritty documentaries. now you're doing a pop movie, albeit a very good one. why did you do this? >> to have the chance to make like a documentary blockbuster. a film that would appeal to a major audience. who wouldn't want to make a film without a band who are at this core of their career. as we're about to go into a room with them and see them explode. that's the road and journey we went on. to capture that with cameras is a rare opportunity. >> it's a terrific movie. i haven't seen it yet, but everyone who i know who has seen it says it's brilliant.

let's turn quickly to syria, because you've made movies about this region. you've traveled around this region. what do you make of what's happening here? >> the biggest thing for me is you want to make sure all the information you're getting is accurate. that before we act we get real people on the ground who are verifying and justifying everything we're hearing. you've got to get u.n. security inspectors in there. it is such a pressure cooker. when you travel around the world, there's already judgments about the united states. the last thing you need to do is make a mistake and make the wrong decision. i said earlier to the panel, one of the problems, and you'll know this from having traveled that region, there's so much distrust after what happened in iraq, that when governments say this bad guy has bad weapons and it turns out he hasn't, then trust goes, doesn't it? >> and it goes immediately. all it takes is one little thing

like this to ruin it. we just can't afford that right now. >> morgan, i've only -- you've only been working at cnn for about a month, but you can come back any time. >> whenever you need me, i can twerk whenever you like. >> i like the idea of two morgans going at it. good to talk to you. >> thanks, piers. >> we'll be right back. hey love. [off screen] there you are. [speaking german]

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that's all for us tonight. anderson cooper starts right now. good evening everyone. tonight with washington talking war, we'll talk about what military action against syria would actually mean to american interests, american lives and millions of syrians living and dying under a dictator. >> and part two of america's worst charity when it comes to how much money they raise for dying children, and how little they actually spend on them. we're keeping them honest. the people that say not vaccinating their children is a matter of faith, putting everyone at risk of childhood diseases that we sometimes forget can kill.